Tuesday, August 02, 2005

mein Nathuram bhol raha hoon

“karmaNyev adhikArsthe ma phaleshu kadhachana”

Scene1: Kurukshetra, the battle between the Kauravas and the Pandavas. Arjuna feels helpless to have a recontre with some of his most revered and beloved people. Krishna assumes the role of the Guru, to sermon Arjuna of his duty. He preaches the Gita, which has the essence of the do’s and don’ts for a life. The point to note here is, once Arjuna accepts Krishna as his Guru, he is in complete assonance to what the Guru delivers to him. This very virtue in him helped him come out of his imbroglio.

Scene 2: January 30th 1948, the day The Mahathma was assassinated by a very learned Hindu nationalist. Well, I do not want to call him a fundamentalist, as from my view point he did have a fair argument to support his action. Refer “May it please you Honour”. Nathuram Godse, assumed the exact same virtues of Arjuna, accepted Veer Savarkar (Veer Savarkar, I believe, also gave this very same argument to influence people to jon the movement) as his Guru and was in complete accedence to whatever his Guru wanted him to do. He believed fullest in what his Guru preached.

I personally feel, it is for an individual to choose his path of karma. If, what Arjuna did was not a murder and an action to protect Dharma, I IMHO feel Nathuram also did what he believed is required to protect Dharma. Nowhere in his trail testimony does he mention anything ill about MK Gandhi. For that matter he did respect him for his effort to fight for India’s freedom, like how Arjuna respected Dhrona, Bhishma and others.


"If devotion to one's country amounts to a sin, I admit I have committed that sin. If it is meritorious, I humbly claim the merit thereof. I fully and confidently believe that if there be any other court of justice beyond the one founded by the mortals, my act will not be taken as unjust. If after the death there be no such place to reach or to go, there is nothing to be said. I have resorted to the action I did purely for the benefit of the humanity. I do say that my shots were fired at the person whose policy and action had brought rack and ruin and destruction to lakhs of Hindus."
Nathuram Godse


My verdict: Nathuram Vinayakram Godse is innocent!!!!

Disclaimer: I am not a Hindu fundamentalist. I am just a passerby, who would like to have a fair retrospect sans awe to M. K. Gandhi.

25 comments:

expertdabbler said...

sujan

indha velyaatu nalla irukkey!!

let me be frank here. many people hold this view of Gandhi. honestly i dont know much abt Gandhi's entire life history and all of his views..

anyway coming to yr point, if Godse is innocent, so whats yr idea of fundamentalism then?

naanum onnum assume pannalai...

appo 9/11? adhuvum mohammed atta karma dhaaney so is he innocent?

bin laden? America's foreign policies?

Prabhu said...

intha concept use panninaa everyone is innocent in their own power of reasoning.
gimme an instance where you think, someone is guilty of something and apply the same logic that you wrote!

The Doodler said...
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The Doodler said...

Hmmm..I believe Godse thought that Gandhi was selling India to the Muslims and that Gandhi supported partition? Actually, Gandhi was totally against it and tried his best to prevent it. Jinnah proved to be too strong and stubborn for Indian leaders at that time.
Sujan, I tend to agree with Prabhu. Arjuna could afford to completely surrender to Krishna because he is God himself. Veer Savarkar, alas, was a mortal given to all human faults. There is no comparison between the two. And Arjuna killed warriors face to face in the battlefield where everyone knew death was coming. That is Dharma.
I do not think it is Dharma to kill a flailing old man who was an embodiment of Ahimsa on his way to a prayer meeting, no matter what the provocation.

mathangi k said...

Sujan...
You may have a point here when you say that it is for an individual to choose his path of karma.... but then how can you justify all the killings in the name of righteousness??? I am not a big fan of Gandhi's principles but neither was his killing warranted...nor did it solve the problems.In fact, his assasination sparked off so many other issues...

But as they say 'One man's bread is somebody elses poison'

-M

Anonymous said...

M,
inga matter vandhu gandhiya konnathu illa. Godse seithathu correcta thappa appadingarathu thaan... intha olagathula nallathu kettathunnu solrathu ellame avanga avangala porutha varai thaan... ellame relative terms... entha vishayathayum thappunnum sollalam correctnum sollalam...avanga avangala poruthathu..

So Godse may have felt justified.

aana adikku adi rathathukku rathamnu ellarum eranginomna, ulagam seerazhinjidum...

ithu en thazhmaiyana karuthu..Neenga enna nenaikkareenga?

:)

nalla blog

Zeppelin said...

good one dude...

as u know, me no comments here... at a loss for words, not in awe of Gandhi or Godse, but basically because I dont know much to comment about anything...

However, with my hearsay knowledge and deriving from worldly opinion, I feel this matter of innocence and guilty is relative...IMHO !

cheers dude,
c ya tomorrow ..;)

P B said...

I think experiments with truth must be made compulsory in schools..gandhi is not an ordinary man. He must be awed and respected.

I dunno much about godse's reasons. BTW everyone has their own reasons..LTTE has theirs for assasinating Rajiv Gandhi.

There is no parallel between kurukshthra and here..if you read duriyodhan's point of view if Bharatham, it might give totally different perspective. Nathuram might had been a good man, still he was illusioned and commmitted a sin. Remeber Bhishma was killed, though he was great person. Maya's game is beyond the limits of our cognizance.

sb said...

Prabhu Karthik,
I have to clarify something here. I am not talking about law here. I am talking about Dharma. There is subtle but evident difference between the way Law and Dharma. Law only needs evidence and circumstance to give its judgement, whereas Dhrma is only gonverrned by honesty.
Well, to ans your question, if 9/11 was a pure act of conviction, honesty and belief then according to the Hindu Dharma it is not a Sin.

sb said...

Prabhu,
oru instance illa 1000 instances kudukka mudiyum. Rape and murder. Child molestation. Swindling public money. Misuse of power.
The problem is how do we quantify crime to punish a person.
Oru uyir edukkarthukku dhandanai innoru oyir edukkardhu konjam illogicala irukku.

sb said...

Subha,
I am not trying to Krishna to Veer Savarkar. The point I tried to make is, as a student/follower you will/should have complete faith in your mentor. That is what I tried to point in drawing comparison between Arjuna and Godse.
I must accpet to your second point. My bad, to have made a one-to-one between a war-field and a murder. Well, I will have to may be change my verdict then!!!

sb said...

mk,
Thanks a lot for stopping by.
I must confess that I am a great fan of Gandhi. Let me clarify one thing here. I consider Gandhi as my ideal figure, a mentor. Gandhi was Dharma personified (in his later years).
I tried to analyse the psyche of Godse, I mean why would anybody Indian want to kill Gandhi. From that perspective it takes strong conviction to have gone ahead with it.

sb said...

Anonymous,
Romba nadri!!! Neenga yar nu sonna nalla irukkum

"aana adikku adi rathathukku rathamnu ellarum eranginomna, ulagam seerazhinjidum...
"
Adhu dhan Gandhi yin karuthum kooda.

sb said...

zep,
besttu!!!
nambo yAr vambukkum pogama samatha appadiye irundhuduvum. :-)

sb said...

PB Anna,
naan gandhi oda parama visiri. innoda role model vazhkaila Gandhi dhan. ana I just wanted put myself in Godse's shoes. avlo dhan. Godse kalathula history course la Gandhi pathi padama vara vaippu illa ;-)
To your other point. What are mythology and Epics for. Nambaloda vasadhikku etha madiri appo appo use pannikarthukku dhan.

expertdabbler said...

SB,

i did not bring in law.
in fact law la edhyaum clear a define panna mudiyadhu.
'public place la smoke pannadei' na. public place ku definition kudukanum. that may or may not incude certain places which we consider as public by common sense.

dharma ellam complicated concepts. enakku avlova theriyadhu.

ama universala sila accepted principles of dharma irukkunu dhaan nenaikiren...

thannoda kolkaikaaga enna venna pannalaam adhaan dharmam na...koncham kastama irukku digest panna...

mathangi k said...

Sujan....
Antha anonymous naanthen... Mathangi

:)

P B said...

Mythology and epics nammaloda vasadhikku etha mathiri use pannikaravanga thaan niraya peru..aana athukaga athu illa.
Naan freeya irukardhala unaku oru kathai.

There was a king who wanted to learn Bhagawatham. Once a brahmin came and offered to teach him. The king asked him "Have you mastered Bhagawatham?". The brahmin said "Yes I did, I have read entire bhagawatham". The king said "Please go and master it, I don't think you have done it". The brahmin went back and started reading dilligently again. After many years, king went to brahmin and asked "Have you mastered it?". The brahmin said "NO I did not, it is not so easy to comprehend all of them". The king said with great reverence "Please take me as your student".
Aama unaku 17 comments aai poche..enaku keezha comment vaanguravan nee thaan nu ninaichen..kadavule en enna ellathhulaium lastave vekura?

sb said...

PK,
nambo lifela, sila pala seyal senje dhan aganum. andh sila seyalgal ellarkkum nanmai dhan vilaivikkumnu yaralayum solla muidiyadhu.
for example, BPO America makkal velai vAyppai koraikkardhu na India la oru ilainganukku velai thedi tharudhu. adhe madiri dhan nambalodaya ella seyalum, oru edathula nalladhu nadanhda innoru edathula theemai nadakkalam. ellathayum dimensionlayum think panna manidhanala sathiyam illai.
Aga, avan ellaikul enna unmayo (idhukku kattu pattu ththanai per seyal seyyarom?) adhu dhan dharmam nu enakku thonardhu.
adha dhan naan Godse senjadha nenaikkaren. I am in no way advocating for violence or terrorism. naan Godse edathula irundhu irunahdl, ennoda unmayana koLgaigal padi naan kolai senju irukka matten.
Afterall we cannot percive the absolute truth!!!!

sb said...

PB,
aumayana kadhai. naan andha blog ezhudhinene thavira, enakku ennikkume
idhu oru kelvi manasula undu, oru Guru - Sishya uravu sirandhadha
eppadi amayum? adhu yarinodaya poruppu, Guruvinudaya poruppa, illa
Sishyanudya poruppa? andha kelvikku vidai therinjkkarthukkaguvum dhan
andha blog ezhudhinen.
ungala ellam pathu kathukkittu valandhu vara chnna payyan naan. ennoda
ellam neenga potti podalama. :-)

P B said...

SB,
Guru grace is greatest, When one has got a guru he by himself knows. I his presence no question araises, everything is at happiest.
BTW, do u know datthareya's story of 27 gurus?

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Vettai aadura singathoda paarvaila.. kolapadura muyal oru unavu porul.. aaga vettai kooda thapillai.. singathoda paarvaiyillay...

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